CFConversations Episode 1 - Roundtable 1 - June 15, 2008
Welcome to the first episode of CFConversations! This is our first roundtable episode! This episode was recorded June 13th.CF9 Rumors/Hints
Open Sourcing of CFML
CFUNITED - Jeff, Rick, Adam and Brian will all be attending; Aaron is sending two of his team.
Closing comments:
Roundtable members:
- Brian Meloche
- Rick Mason
- Adam Haskell
- Jeff Coughlin
- Aaron West
Agenda:
- Introduction:
- Our origins are from the ColdFusion Weekly podcast.
- Brian started this podcast, out of sadness that Matt and Peter were retiring ColdFusion Weekly. We're not a renamed ColdFusion Weekly. We're a new podcast, with new people, and hope to succeed ColdFusion Weekly but not replace it.
- Format:
- A mix of roundtable and interview episodes.
- We may add other formats after we get a rhythm going.
- Focus on good content and getting into a maintainable schedule over style. No music, no fluff, just good stuff!
- Trying to keep it simple, and share the burden between us to cranks these out.
- The first several podcasts will be roundtables, as this one, and we'll be doing three more from CFUNITED.
- We'll also be doing several interviews at CFUNITED, and Mark Mandel will be doing an interview as well RE: Transfer 1.0 after CFUNITED.
- Goal is to bank interview content as much as we can to release on a regular schedule, mixed with more roundtables.
- This podcast is meant to be a community resource, not one man's project. Brian's getting it off the ground, but he wants and NEEDS help from any of you that want to get involved with the show.
- If you want to get involved, would like to be on a roundtable, would like to be interviewed or have content you can contribute, or if you have feedback, email us at podcast at cfconversations dot com or use the contact form.
- Lastly, although we've done a few roundtables, we're new at production (although Brian has some audio experience from college), so please be patient. We're learning as we do it.
- Sponsor: Host My Site, who are providing hosting and bandwidth for the site and podcast.
- Jobs:
- Kroger is Hiring - Cincinnati, OH. Email Adam Haskell if you're interested
- Dealer Tire is Hiring - Cleveland, OH. Looking for developers and senior developers. Email Brian Meloche if you're interested.
- News:
- Conference Round-up:
- cf.Objective() conference - Adam, Jeff and Brian attended
- Overall impressions
- Memorable moments/sessions
- Adobe Community Summit - Aaron, Jeff and Rick attended
- Overall impressions
- Memorable moments
- WebManiacs conference - Aaron and Jeff attended
- Overall impressions
- cf.Objective() conference - Adam, Jeff and Brian attended
- Spring <br /> conference - Adam attended
- Overall impressions
- Scotch on the Rocks and WebDU - None of us attended either of them
- What's your impression of what CF9 will or should be?
- Railo announcement at Scotch
- Adam Lehman, Ben Forta both supportive of Railo
- LGPL over GPL - what does it mean?
- Open BlueDragon
- Drama:
- Matt Woodward resigning as an ACE - He's made it clear that it was due to time commitments, not as a result of Adam Lehman's blog post
- Vince Bonfanti's announcements of ColdFusion to .NET and ColdFusion to Java consulting - originally saying "legacy"
- Resignations from OpenBD Project:
- Sean Corfield
- Criticism of Vince Bonfanti's post: New Atlanta calls you legacy
- Criticism of Alan Williamson "not caring about the CF community" and resignation from the Open BlueDragon steering committee: Farewell Open BlueDragaon (sic)
- Mike Brunt
- Andy Allan (lack of time)
- Mark Drew (lack of time)
- Sean Corfield
- Adam gives an insider's perspective, as an OpenBD steering committee member
- Drama:
- Railo or OpenBD? Or do you care?
- During all of this, what's going on with the Smith Project?
- What does the spread of FOSS in the CFML world mean for Adobe? Standards?
- Sessions we're doing:
- Adam Haskell is doing the Open BD BOF
- Brian Meloche is revisiting his MAX 2007 BOF, as Promoting CFML Outside of the CFML Community - Friday 4-6pm
- Expectations
- Tone down the marketing!
- Brian Meloche - brianmeloche at gmail dot com
- Adam Haskell - a.haskell at gmail dot com
- Rick Mason - rick at coldfusion dot org
- Aaron West - trajik210 at gmail dot com
- Jeff Coughlin - jeff at jeffcoughlin dot com
The runtime of this episode is 1:16:37. You'll notice that I had a lot of microphone problems during the podcast, but the recording still came out well. Enjoy!!!
I hope you guys can get your audio issues worked out. Some people were so loud they were clipping, others were so quiet I couldn't hear. I know its hard with a lot of people on the line, but it can be done.
My microphone, which had been used several times between the unpublished roundtable # 3 of ColdFusion Weekly and this roundtable, did not show these problems until the podcast Friday night. I will be buying a new microphone before the next Skype roundtable. I'm not sure what the quality will be like for the roundtables and interviews done at CFUNITED yet, but I'd expect them to have more noise.
Please be patient on the quality. For an episode 1, though, I think it turned out pretty well. We'll keep working on it.
Not a bad job at all, folks, I really enjoyed the style, the lightweight, free-flowing conversation, the whole thing.
It felt like I was chilling out with some of my fellow programmers (the smart ones!!) for an hour, which was really nice. Keep up the good work.
I'm glad to hear you liked the format. As for the audio, I'm confident we'll get that better. It wasn't too bad by any means, but it could stand a bit of improvement which I'm sure will get worked out.
But the skies opened and a great new ColdFusion podcast has been born. You had me at "this podcast is about CFML...".
Thank you, thank you.
Hey can you make a Skype call in number so us losers can ask some questions?
We'll give that some consideration. However, I'll note that we're not trying to be a copy of ColdFusion Weekly. In that regard, we're not trying to make it a "call-in" show. However, I do want to encourage audience participation and I have some ideas on how to do that in future episodes. I am not going to spill the beans on this yet, as the goal right now is to get a regular schedule going and deliver good content. Rest assured, we'll examine audience participation in the future.